Oct 20, 2025
The RevolYOUtion: October 20, 2025
Keith Knight of the Libertarian Institute joins the revolution! Cenk Uygur discusses on The Young Turks.
- 49 minutes
All right.
Welcome to crowdsourcing the revolution.
It's a peaceful one, a nonviolent one.
We've had some incredible
breakthroughs here.
We're trying to unite
the left and the right.
[00:00:15]
And today, we're going to have
Keith Knight on.
He runs, one of the libertarian
organizations in the country.
So beginning to accomplish the mission.
Last show, I told you guys,
Marjorie Taylor Greene has signed
on to the bill that lowers drug prices.
[00:00:31]
It's amazing.
Nobody thought that that was possible.
That we can get.
Here we are.
Left wing show, you know,
trying to bring in both sides as earnest,
as earnestly as we can,
and, and and folks who are listening.
[00:00:46]
And it's beautiful.
And Keith is the managing editor
of the Libertarian Institute.
Again.
We're going to talk to him
in just a little bit.
But meanwhile, the main part
is the crowdsourcing part.
So you guys have been busy
doing amazing things.
So I asked you to do Kids of Gaza
to show Americans, what's happening.
[00:01:04]
And by the way, later in the week,
there's an American kid
who's been held in detention
by the Israelis for eight months.
Our government won't do anything about it.
They're like, he's not even an Israeli
who cares about him.
He's just an American.
As I've told you,
Israel has killed 11 Americans.
[00:01:23]
In in just the last three years.
Our government does nothing about it.
Nothing.
They value, Israel more
than they value America.
And another reason why the left
and the right, are joining together.
Because we're all Americans.
I don't know who Israel is.
[00:01:39]
They're not my uncle.
I don't know why we owe them anything.
We don't owe them a damn thing.
So I love that the right wing and centrist
and everyone in the country, other than
the corrupt, have begun to realize that.
So as I ask you guys to put together
your own stuff, a lot of you have.
So we've got now a Kids
of Gaza Instagram handle.
[00:01:58]
And that was put together
by one of you guys.
James created it.
So it's kind of a funny period
where it is you're seeing on this screen.
It's kids, though, and then had
to put the period in the middle
and then f Gaza, Gaza, obviously.
So and it spells
that kids of Gaza overall.
[00:02:13]
So why there was already kids of Gaza.
That's why I had to do that one.
But we're going to try to put up pictures
of kids, including American kids,
that are in Gaza or the West Bank.
So mainly Gaza.
But the kid got kidnaped
from by the Israelis in the West Bank
[00:02:29]
who was an American.
But anyways, we'll put those up.
Some are alive, some are dead,
and you don't know until you look
at the pictures and read the bio.
By the way, all the ones that are dead
killed with our money and our bombs.
Okay.
So, James. Awesome job, brother.
[00:02:45]
Way to start that.
Okay, hopefully we'll get you
some pictures and bios there soon.
And, all right, now there's
a website for kids of Gaza that we set up,
kids of gaza.com.
Com and a volunteer.
Aaron is going to send us a video
of that site a little bit later
[00:03:02]
because they've been working on it.
If you want to work on it with our
community director, Kara Eastman,
email Hope at Titcomb, Hope at Titcomb,
and and be part of this
because then now we're coordinating,
we're coordinating with you guys
on how to build these things.
[00:03:19]
And a lot of people have amazing ideas.
In fact, I'm going
to read you some in a second.
So in fact, let me read that to you now.
Arpan, is another,
person from the audience.
See, I love this crowdsourcing, guys,
we couldn't do all this on our own,
but together, combined internet.
[00:03:34]
We can do this.
Arpan has an update on corruption.
Watch us.
So that was an idea that I think
one of you guys came up with.
We got to figure out
who originally came up with that idea.
I want to give you credit for it.
And we had you guys vote on the URL
and you voted on Corruption Watch.
[00:03:51]
And what that means is that's taking
all the politicians,
all the bills and all the donors and
seeing what kind of match we have to do.
Their votes match what their donors want.
So let me read from our plan, he said.
I've successfully uploaded
all bills enacted into law
[00:04:08]
from 108th Congress to present.
These include Senate bills,
Senate joint resolutions, House bills,
and House joint resolution bills.
Approximately 6100 entries.
I've also successfully uploaded
all senators and House of Representatives
from 108th Congress to present.
[00:04:23]
There were other lawmakers uploaded.
Not sure why, but we can filter out
those individuals later.
Approximately 2600 entries.
So pause there.
Got more.
But look at this combination
of all of you guys, plus all
the new technologies, including AI,
including crowd crowdsourced coding.
[00:04:41]
Right?
All of that is allowing us
to build these sites much, much quicker.
And so in the old days,
this would have taken forever
to build a site like this, right?
So let's see what we come up with.
But we're also going to fact check.
So as he's pointing out, there's some
people that shouldn't be on that list.
[00:04:56]
We're going to all take him out together.
Kind of.
Kind of like Wikipedia, right?
So Arpon then says we're now working
on uploading all campaign contributions,
beginning with the 108th Congress to now.
After that, we will upload all data on how
politicians from 108th Congress to present
Congress voted on the bills I uploaded.
[00:05:13]
Once all of this data is finished
uploading to the cloud,
we can then start working on how it will
appear on the website
and how users can interact with the data.
God, I love this so much!
Man, if it works and it's a beautiful site
and you can see oh look at that.
[00:05:29]
Here's I'm looking up Cory Booker.
Oh look at all the money
he's taken from AIPAC.
Oh look at that.
His voting record is 98% with AIPAC.
Okay. And you can go down the list.
Oh, there's a guy who takes tons of money
from Big Sugar down in Florida.
[00:05:45]
There are big presence in Florida, right?
Oh, look at that.
His voting record matches
100% with Big Sugar.
So it can't wait.
And of course,
the mainstream media should do this.
They have billions of dollars
in resources and they're like, no, no.
No no no no no no no no.
Please, please don't tell them
about the corruption.
[00:06:00]
Whatever you do.
I'll tell you this quick story.
I've said many times, but for those of you
who don't know, David Shuster works here.
He's on rebel headquarters.
Check him out when you get a chance.
It's also on YouTube.
Rebel HQ. And, when he was a reporter
in Washington,
he did a story on money and politics.
[00:06:15]
Managing editor takes him out,
shows him the newsroom, goes,
I'm not running your piece, David.
And David says, why?
He said, money in politics
paid for all of this.
So they know.
They know the mainstream media
gets all the money from the corruption.
[00:06:32]
And so they aid and abet
and protect corruption.
That's why they never talk
about money in politics.
That's why they're not doing this project.
And we're having you guys try to work
together as the as the American people
to create these websites
that mainstream media won't show you.
[00:06:48]
God bless the folks at AIPAC tracker,
by the way, made a big difference.
Note so now our last thing.
Note we are in the middle of discussing
how to include more politicians, starting
with Clinton era and also governors.
We're also discussing how to include
every bill introduced since Clinton era.
[00:07:03]
This would be in the millions.
I think I will try to make
this work if possible.
However, I personally am leaning
toward doing the above.
So we have a lite version running.
Then we can incrementally add more data.
Nevertheless, this is the currently
in discussion look upon.
I like the Lite version two.
We'll get to the all
the different eras later.
[00:07:22]
But let's build the thing
that you're building now
with 108th Congress to on, because it'll
already show you the big picture.
And then, yes,
we'll have plenty of time to go back
and absolutely add all those things.
And look, guys,
this is truly nonpartizan, right?
So like if there's hacks out there
who are like, well, you shouldn't
[00:07:39]
include Democrats on that database.
I mean, they take the same money
and they vote the same way.
But, you know, they're more moral.
Are they?
Why they don't look more moral to me.
And by the way, maybe we compile
a database and it shows you Democrats
[00:07:55]
or Republicans are a little bit more
honest in which direction they vote.
We don't know until we build a database.
Right?
I'm not prejudging it, except for the fact
that I covered politics for 30 years.
And my excellent, educated guess is that
they will both be deeply, deeply corrupt.
[00:08:13]
There aren't a lot of Congress people
or politicians in America
who are like, oh, millions of dollars
handed to me by a lobby.
Well, I'll take it and I'll vote
against you because I am that principled.
And afterwards, I know you won't give
me any more money, but that's okay.
And you think a lot of lobbies are handing
out millions of dollars to people they're
[00:08:31]
not sure are going to vote for them.
But yet, mainstream media
treats you like idiots,
and they say dumb things like that.
I'm going to say even a worse word.
Oh, yeah?
No, the politicians are
not affected by the money.
[00:08:48]
They're having debates.
Look, if they really believe
that the reporters and mainstream media
are the dumbest people in the whole
country, you could get anything from them.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
No, no, no, I'm.
No, I'm going
to build a bridge right there.
I'm going to call it the Brooklyn Bridge.
[00:09:04]
Just give me a give me all your
money right now and I will trust me.
I'm an angel. What do you mean?
- I'm like, oh, okay.
- All right.
Anyway, so that's going to be corruption.
Watch us.
Okay. Or us?
So Sean McBride wrote in,
with what we asked him to do.
[00:09:22]
So Murray Newman was on here, former
congresswoman from Illinois, and she
taught us how to affect the politicians.
And one of the things she said
is go to their district office.
You know, they we thought
they got to let you in and be polite.
We're nonviolent. We're peaceful.
[00:09:38]
We want peace in the real world.
We want peace in our lives.
We never harass anyone.
We never do anything physical.
But we show up and we were insistent and
she said, you should definitely do that.
So Sean did that in Pelosi's office
in San Francisco.
Let's see how it went.
I went to Nancy Pelosi's district office
today, but they don't even let people
[00:09:57]
in the front door or to drop off paper.
I'm a San Francisco State student, and we
have free public transit, so I'm willing
to go there as many times as necessary.
Just not sure how to get her
or other San Francisco residents attention
about, the drug bill that we're.
[00:10:16]
I think he's got the wrong number
on there,
that we're trying to, get into place.
You know what, Kara?
I just I don't want
to screw it up because,
can you get me the number of the bill?
[00:10:31]
Because I'm going to suggest something.
So, so we, that's we're calling it
the Fair drug Prices bill.
If they're not going to,
let you in, When I. And they're not
even going to accept the paper.
[00:10:46]
Well, I guess it's fair to leave the paper
on the door and on the window.
Right?
Please lower drug prices and say that, you
know, you're supporting the bills number,
which I'm about to tell you.
Sorry.
It is. Got to come.
[00:11:02]
So okay. Now Carl wrote it wrong.
Okay. 3493. That's what I thought.
But I wanted to be positive.
Say I'm supporting HR 3493
to lower drug prices.
Please help us lower drug prices.
I mean, it's as simple as as you can make.
I mean, what does it mean
that they won't let citizens, constituents
[00:11:21]
of hers into her district office?
This is how arrogant our politicians are.
By the way, the other day
we had a shortcut.
Chakrabarti on the show.
He's running against Nancy Pelosi.
He's doing great.
You're out. He's almost caught her.
He's only I mean, normally you'd lose that
race by 60, 80 points against the leader
[00:11:41]
of one of the parties, right?
And one that's been around forever.
He's already almost caught her.
He's only 13 points behind.
It's at this pace.
She's going to retire soon, so.
And she should retire,
because she doesn't represent the people.
[00:11:56]
But keep going, guys,
find your district office, send in
stories, send in videos, send in pictures.
If you actually meet a congressman
in the wild, wouldn't that be amazing?
Like, take a picture or a video
and be like, hey, here's me asking my
representative for lower drug prices
and to support H.R. 3493, right,
[00:12:15]
and send it in, and we'll show it.
Even if they don't,
you don't meet the congressman.
And again, Marie Newman was,
I think, projecting too much.
She's a wonderful person.
She cares about her.
Cared about her constituents, by the way,
she was eliminated by the Israeli lobby.
They spent, 4 to 6 million.
[00:12:32]
I forget what the exact number was
to eliminate her, because she didn't vote
for all the bills that they demanded.
So. But, at least take a video of you
eating lunch in the district office
or whatever it might be,
and I'll show it on air.
Pictures and videos. Okay.
[00:12:49]
Let's go. Let's do democracy.
Let's get involved.
Let's take our government back.
Okay, I have more updates for you guys,
but I gotta pause here
because Keith Knight's joining us.
He's the executive editor
of the Libertarian Institute.
And the battle is joined.
[00:13:04]
- Keith, welcome, brother gang.
- Thank you so much for having me.
No problem.
We're trying to unite
all the different factions here.
And you and I were in a debate against
each other recently on immigration.
Right.
But here we are uniting, and I love it.
So tell me why you were interested in
this project, and then we'll
[00:13:23]
get into the specifics in a minute.
Just for the record,
the debate was about foreign aid.
It was with Mike Benz. So. My bad.
Not totally right. Immigration one yet?
Yeah. No, no, you're totally right, Keith.
My bad. You're right.
And I said that wrong
earlier in the show too.
[00:13:39]
Go ahead.
So the reason we have the Libertarian
Institute want to get in on this heroic
fight that you guys are thankfully leading
for us is because so much of the
corruption is usually categorized as well.
What is Nancy Pelosi's
portfolio look like?
[00:13:55]
Was Jeffrey Epstein more
than just friends with Ehud Barak?
Those are very interesting, and the
implications are certainly significant.
But what we talk about at the Libertarian
Institute is the blatant corruption
that is right in your face.
If we take just the three primary
catastrophes of my generation,
[00:14:14]
if we look at the war on terror,
the financial crisis
and the state response to Covid,
I think there was blatant corruption in
all of these cases in the war on terror.
President Bush came out
on September 20th of 2001 and said,
Americans are asking why they hate us.
[00:14:32]
They hate what they see
in this chamber right here,
a democratically elected government.
They hate our freedom of speech,
our freedom to vote
and our freedom to disagree.
So immediately, the central focus of
the war on terror was completely deviated
from the truth, which is they hate us for
occupying the land of the two sanctuaries,
[00:14:51]
Mecca and Medina.
They hate us for supporting Israel.
Going back to the massacre of 1996,
they hate us for, the sanctions
against Iraq all throughout the 90s,
before the second Iraq War and the
operation to remove Saddam Hussein.
[00:15:06]
So that is a case
of such blatant corruption now.
George Bush just says this on
national television in front of Congress,
and we don't even have the standards
that we would have
for like a fourth or a fifth grader.
Hey, you can't just give us an answer.
You have to cite your source.
[00:15:22]
You have to show your work.
Where was he coming up with this?
Completely fabricated.
So the 20 year war on terror
was verifiably based on a lie perpetuated
by Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz,
but especially the sitting president.
And then you can see how fake
the al Qaeda threat is in general.
[00:15:40]
I was just in New York City in September
and who was there
but a former member of al Qaeda,
a guy whose name used to be
Al Mohammad Al-julani, but he's changed
his name to Ahmed Al Qahirah,
and he's now the leader of Syria.
[00:15:57]
He was interviewed by former
CIA Director General David Petraeus.
And Petraeus said, you know, you have
a lot of fans here, and I'm one of them.
We want to know how you're doing.
Do you have time to think?
Are you getting any sleep at night?
This guy was a member of the group
we were told wanted to kill us
[00:16:12]
and hated us just because we were free.
This is a blatant scam right in our face.
The two other scams that,
display the blatant corruption.
That's right in your face.
- Yeah.
- Hold on.
Before we go to the other two scams,
I just want to add to what you're saying.
Okay, so we spent $8 trillion on
[00:16:31]
the so-called war on terror. 8 trillion.
That's an unimaginable number.
We have a $37 trillion debt right now.
Eight of that, an enormous percentage
of that is just for that.
Now.
Did Iraq, for example,
attack us on nine over 11?
No. In fact, Saddam Hussein,
as terrible as he was, was opposed to al
[00:16:49]
Qaeda, would imprison or kill al Qaeda,
and we took him out anyway.
You want to know who said
he was their number one enemy?
Nobody's going to be surprised
unless they're you're a moron
who works in mainstream media.
Israel said Iraq is our number one enemy.
[00:17:05]
And, one of the other neocons
was Benjamin Netanyahu.
And all of American media told us,
oh, Iraq, weapons of mass destruction,
the region where the, you know,
where the al Qaeda terrorists came from.
I remember Joe Scarborough saying,
and we covered it on the show.
[00:17:21]
They hate us because they hate us.
They hate us because they hate us.
And they would say absurd things like,
they hate our freedoms.
No, they hate that we were in Mecca
and Medina and kicking the living crap
out of the Palestinians.
Now, that doesn't mean they're right.
Right.
What it means is we're fighting
someone else's war
[00:17:38]
and spending $8 trillion to do it, right?
We didn't have those enemies.
All of a sudden, we have those enemies.
So Keith is absolutely right.
And by the way, in Iraq,
it wasn't just about Israel.
The oil companies made a killing.
The defense contractors made a killing.
The bankers who speculated on it
made it killing every donor class.
[00:17:55]
The Iraq war and 69% of Americans.
So seven out of ten Americans,
when we started the war in Iraq,
thought that Saddam Hussein
had personally attacked us on nine over
11. They didn't know it was al Qaeda.
They thought Saddam did it. Why?
Because mainstream media lied to them
in mass and gave them that impression,
[00:18:15]
so that you could rile people up
to attack and spend all that money.
And so and Keith is right
about the leader of Syria.
He was part of al Qaeda and ISIS.
The things, the worst things in the world.
But all of a sudden,
when Turkey wanted to take northern Syria
[00:18:31]
and Israel want to take west from Syria.
They teamed up to get rid of Assad,
put the this former al Qaeda guy
in charge, and now he's cleaned up.
He's all washed up.
And all the past al Qaeda and ISIS
has been forgiven as long as he
[00:18:48]
gives away land to Israel and Turkey.
Look, I'm from Turkey originally,
but I'm an American.
We don't serve Turkey.
We don't serve Israel.
Give our $8 trillion back,
let alone the 310 billion
that Israel has taken directly from us.
[00:19:03]
All right, now, keep the other two.
The other two that come to mind
would be the financial crisis.
Primarily, this was seen by both Democrats
and Republicans as one of two ways.
It was not something that could have been
foreseen or, well, we were able to foresee
[00:19:19]
it, but we did not want to rile up
the masses and give too much information
to our Democratic constituents.
So either way,
there was no innocent explanation.
What I believe happened was
this was intentionally orchestrated
primarily by people looking
to the advice of Paul Krugman in his.
[00:19:38]
This is an economist at the New
York Times on August 2nd of 2002.
He said, what Alan Greenspan should do
is replace the Nasdaq bubble
with the housing bubble.
He uses that term specifically.
So regardless of what you believe, the
primary cause was of the financial crisis.
[00:19:56]
We have foreknowledge of people
saying it should actually happen.
People who are in significant positions
of power or even best case scenario, they
don't have the knowledge or incentives
to let us know what's happening.
And when it happens on their watch,
they don't even apologize.
[00:20:11]
After nine over 11,
Bush gets a 91% approval rating.
The economy crashes on Bush's watch,
and then we get
a troubled asset relief package.
Another trillion dollars to the bankers.
This is blatant corruption
right in your face.
You don't have to say,
well, hypothetically, does
this circumstantial evidence match up?
[00:20:28]
This is right in your face.
And the final example would be the concept
that, governments and governors
had the right to lock people down during
Covid for extended periods of time.
The work by Doctor Thomas Woods Jr,
in his book diary of a psychosis,
[00:20:44]
shows that states like Florida
and California that had very different
lockdown measures and very different
approaches to mask mandates, did not see a
significant difference in overall deaths.
So the message is clear it's much better
to empower the working class
[00:21:02]
to make their own decisions,
rather than having oligarchs coercively
decide what's best for us, whether it's
in foreign policy, finance or virology.
Okay, so let me, tackle those two.
So this is interesting.
You're coming out
from liberal libertarian perspective.
I'm coming out
from progressive perspective.
[00:21:18]
So on the financial collapse in 2008,
there's no question why it happened.
Collateralized debt obligations,
derivatives, and basically all of that
is fancy words for gambling
and leverage was the key part of it.
So guys, I need you to focus on this.
This is super important.
[00:21:35]
Donors paid off Congress people to take
away regulations that prohibited them
from over gambling with our money because
remember, they're using depositor money,
but they're keeping the proceeds.
And so if they do, they take our money
and they make a bet twice the size
[00:21:55]
or even four times the size,
it's actually not that bad.
So I know finance, etc.
That sounds bad,
but you could live with that.
But once you get to 1020,
it's you're playing with fire
and it's guaranteed to collapse
because even the smallest variation
[00:22:13]
in in price will cause a collapse.
And they got they didn't stop at 10 or 20.
They got into the hundreds.
So they take a dollar of yours,
gamble with it and leverage
it a hundred times, 200 times.
That's a guarantee failure.
[00:22:30]
There's no way that that does
not result in a collapse.
And our government, crook politicians
took money from those financial interests,
allowed them to rig the system
so that they would take that kind of risk,
and then it collapses.
[00:22:45]
And then what do they do?
Then Obama came in
and said he was going to fix it.
He was at 83% approval rating
after inauguration.
So this country is not racist, etc..
Are there people that have issues
and the freaking culture wars?
Yes, but the culture wars
are meant to divide us.
[00:23:01]
83% supported Obama hope and change.
What did he do?
His top donors in 2008 were the bankers,
and he bailed out the bankers
and he paid their bonuses,
bonuses for destroying the economy.
Here's the left and the right telling you
they've been lying to you the whole time.
[00:23:18]
The Democrats and the Republicans.
And on Covid.
Look, we're going to have
disagreements on, some of the measures
that were taken on Covid,
but what's important is who's in charge.
And the answer is big pharma.
If you think Israel gives a lot of money,
Big pharma gives way more.
Okay.
[00:23:34]
And so that's why you might have had
some of the rules during Covid.
But most importantly, we're not allowed
to negotiate drug prices.
That's mental. What do you mean Keith?
What does it mean
that in a capitalist free market,
[00:23:49]
you're not allowed to negotiate prices?
Has anybody even ever heard
of such an insane thing before?
It means that the oligarchs
are coercively, intervening in a spot
where otherwise people would engage
in voluntary contracts.
[00:24:05]
Of course,
you should be able to negotiate.
This is something that unions
could be extremely beneficial in, whether
it's threatening to strike, threatening
to organize, having collective bargaining.
Negotiation is the root of a lot
of economic growth,
because you make sure that you're
getting value for value Exchanges.
[00:24:23]
Instead of having someone step in
and say that negotiation is not allowed.
That is just so psychotic.
It's one of those things that I
think 30 years from now,
people will look back and say,
how could that have ever been justified to
the masses as anything other than a scam?
[00:24:39]
Only thing that I respectfully disagree
on the financial crisis with.
I don't think the deregulation of
Glass-Steagall caused the financial crisis
because the most volatile banks
were Lehman Brothers.
That was just an investment firm,
Bear Stearns,
that was just an investment firm, and AIG,
which was just an insurance company.
[00:24:57]
I think the more diversified banks,
with both commercial and real estate
investments and investments in companies,
and they had savings in capital.
They were much more diversified
and less volatile than those banks
like Lehman and Bear Stearns and AIG.
[00:25:14]
But absolutely, tomorrow they should
be able to negotiate drug prices.
- That is completely crooked.
- Yeah.
And guys, it's totally okay
to have these disagreements about,
hey, what exactly went wrong, etc..
The big picture is who's in charge
and the donors are in charge.
We're not in charge.
[00:25:30]
And so and that's why we're trying to band
together, even with the disagreements,
to get to a place where we can
take our government back
so we can have actual discussions,
debates, and get to the right policy.
So along those lines, Keith,
we've been pushing HR 3493.
[00:25:46]
That's Donald Trump's executive order
turned verbatim into a bill
that says we get basically
most favored nation status on drugs.
So the combination of France, Germany,
etc., whatever they're paying,
we should pay the same, because otherwise,
because the drug companies are just
adding on top, for prices that they make,
[00:26:05]
profits on already,
and they're just robbing us blind.
And our government
is allowing them to do it.
So what's your take
on whether you can get behind that?
I am not sure
about the specifics of this bill.
Anything you want to send me,
I am more than happy to look
[00:26:21]
at when I think of wanting low prices
for products and services.
I think that is a good thing.
Now that sounds like a boring
and predictable opinion to have.
I realize this is not the opinion
of President Trump in general,
or Steve Bannon, who says prices are too
low on products A, B, C, and D,
[00:26:40]
and these products are coming from China.
Low prices are just very bad.
Herbert Hoover famously opposed low prices
when there was the stock market crash.
He instituted the Smoot-Hawley tariffs.
Franklin Roosevelt
even was very skeptical of the freedom
[00:26:57]
to lower prices during a recession.
Therefore, he instituted
the National Recovery Administration,
the NRA in his day.
So it's good.
It is significant
that we come to an agreement
that low prices are a good thing.
[00:27:12]
I think low prices in almost anything
can come from two sources.
One, a drastic increase in the supply.
This is how Cornelius Vanderbilt
lowered the cost of steamships.
How Steve Jobs
lowered the cost of Apple products.
The reason why books and DVDs and printers
and computers are so much cheaper
[00:27:31]
than they previously were, because
the supply has radically increased.
The other way to do it is by state
mandate, absent any sort of negotiation
or increase in capital investment, which
leads to higher methods of production,
mass production and a higher supply.
[00:27:48]
I would not support the state, regulating
prices unilaterally, but any step that can
be taken to increase the supply of health
access to health care goods and services,
I think we should unilaterally
issue free trade
in all pharmaceuticals with any country.
[00:28:05]
We should decriminalize that, economic
activity between consenting adults.
I think the higher the supply,
the lower the price would be.
It's not just fantasyland.
We see it all the time
with Walmart and Amazon.
Very greedy companies, but they can't
afford to be so greedy as to have such
[00:28:22]
high prices because they have an incentive
to produce to the masses of consumers.
If you ask someone, well, it's okay if we
legalize pornography and drugs and guns
because they'll be privately held,
so only the 1% would be able
to afford those private products.
[00:28:39]
But if you think about it, you realize
that the incentive of any producer
is to get access to a mass market.
So I support lower costs in healthcare.
Just like you.
I think we need to embrace free trade
and abolish certificate of need laws,
which require a hospital to get a license
before getting permission to build.
[00:28:57]
This drastically lowers the amount
of hospitals that are available.
Lower supply.
Lower supply leads to higher prices
than there otherwise would be.
So I support anything in the realm
of volunteerism and free trade
to get those prices lower.
Would you support anything
like that in the meantime?
[00:29:14]
Yeah I would so so here's the thing.
Like so again, there's going to be
a little bit of variance
in some of the proposed solutions.
But to back up what Keith is saying
and how again, mainstream media kind
of lies to you and covers things up.
So Bernie at one point went
to go get drugs from Canada
[00:29:30]
and bring them into Michigan, right?
And it was done
as a show of like, wait, why?
If you just go like five minutes,
that way you can get the drugs
for like a quarter of the price.
Why don't we just bring them here?
This is literally the same exact drugs.
And mainstream media and politicians,
including Democrats, were like,
[00:29:47]
those are unsafe Canadian drugs.
They haven't been properly regulated.
What do you like?
What are you talking about?
It's literally the same exact drug.
Why do we have to pay four times as much?
And they're like, no, the donors say,
I mean, it's free.
[00:30:04]
It's not free market.
It's the opposite of a free market.
Let us buy the Canadian drugs boom.
There's a free market.
So, okay, last thing, Which is on Israel.
Look, we're trying to get attention to
folks to we're paying for a genocide here.
[00:30:20]
This is crazy. Nuts, right?
So they say no.
Even though America has given Israel $310
billion so far, let alone the $8 trillion
on the global war on terror, etc.
We owe Israel.
[00:30:36]
So. And it's anti-Semitic to say
that you don't owe Israel money.
So what do you think? Do we owe Israel?
And do we all have to just work
an extra shift for Israel because they
haven't finished the genocide yet?
[00:30:51]
For all the confidence these people have
previously had in calling other people
snowflakes and calling them ultra woke.
The Douglas Murrays and Ben Shapiro's
are the wokest snowflakes imaginable.
They're taking
a very plausible explanation.
[00:31:06]
We see the destruction of Gaza.
Jared Kushner the other day, in his 60
minutes interview, said it had looked
like there was a nuclear explosion in Gaza
when we had when we had been in Israel
for the negotiations in Qatar.
So maybe it's the fact that they
see mass devastation of the poorest,
[00:31:25]
most vulnerable people
maybe that could actually rile them up.
But no, no, no.
Douglas Murray and Dennis Prager
and Ben Shapiro and Sean Hannity
and Mark Levin have all looked into it.
And they know that really
we just we love Henry Ford.
We're just anti-Semites, just the most
nefarious explanations possible.
[00:31:44]
Of course, there's a much more
plausible explanation.
There's an organization called the Jewish
Chronicle, which, right after October 7th,
authorized the, continued publication of
a document titled operation Al-Aqsa flood.
[00:31:59]
This was published
by the Hamas media office.
So let's look at what Hamas said
when they had more eyeballs on them
than ever before.
What is in that document
that they translated into English?
So the English speaking world can see it.
You would think, according
to the Mark Levins and Ben Shapiro's,
[00:32:17]
this would be about, how,
the Jews are disproportionately involved
in, the banks and their nefarious and
their the synagogue of, you know what?
But actually, it was all secular
justifications, which they say
that the British and Zionist regime have
occupied Palestine going back to 1948.
[00:32:37]
They even mention the, terrorist actions
by the Irgun, Stern and Haganah
with people like Menachem Begin.
Before 1948 took place.
The Hamas media office document also
mentions the previous mowings of the lawn,
which are referred to
as Operation Cast Lead.
[00:32:53]
Operation Pillar of Defense.
Now, since 2005,
Israel had been blockading Gaza.
Realize the US government has a policy
that if China threatens to blockade
Taiwan, threatens to blockade Taiwan.
[00:33:08]
That's an act of war
that we will respond to militarily.
But Israel gets a 20 year blockade
on the people of Gaza.
And it's like, well,
we can't expect them to ever do anything.
It is just this would be another concept
of either blatant corruption
[00:33:25]
or actively misleading the jury.
This is why in court they say,
do you promise to tell the whole truth?
Because you can obviously omit things
by telling just specific examples
of things that are technically true.
So, yes, this, blind support for Israel,
I think is absolutely detrimental.
[00:33:44]
And it hurts, how other people see us.
I mean, I look at Nick's,
I don't like Nixon, but I see him
shaking hands with Chairman Mao.
I see Dwight Eisenhower
shaking hands with Nikita Khrushchev.
And I think this is a great thing.
So we should be much more
about negotiating.
[00:34:00]
Look at how proud Trump was
to have negotiated the cease fire
that lasted, what, like 48 hours or so.
So the point is,
when you engage in diplomacy, it's a very
good public relations for your country.
If you represent us,
that's what you should be doing.
Consider if you just care about Israel.
[00:34:18]
You're the most hardcore
Zionist of all time.
It's not even clear that you would support
what's currently happening in Israel,
considering as a causal result
of this footage getting out of Gaza,
the support for Israel is lower than it
ever has been at any point in my life.
[00:34:33]
I am 29 years old. Jenk.
Is that how you're seeing it,
that support for Israel?
That even if I'm a Zionist,
I should still oppose this?
Because, the Israel's PR is worse
than it's ever been in my lifetime.
Is that true for you?
Oh, 100%.
[00:34:49]
I think they're nuts
to get out of the room.
Are you?
If I was a huge fan of Israel, and I had
any kind of influence, I would go and tell
them guys, leave the building immediately,
like leave Gaza, leave the West Bank,
and even leave America.
[00:35:08]
Like, stop, stop with the constant.
No. You owe us. Give us more money.
We're going to kill more Palestinians.
We're going to take more land.
You're getting the whole world
to absolutely hate you and by extension,
unfortunately, hate Jewish people.
Stop. You're hurting.
[00:35:23]
You're hurting Jewish people.
You're hurting your own country.
Why do you want the whole world
to hate you?
- Oh, they.
- Already hate us.
Everyone's an anti-Semite.
Everyone is a terrible person
who are bigots except us.
We're holy and moral
and special right now.
What? It's.
[00:35:39]
It's Keith. It's like they're in a trance.
Like they think
that there's no consequences.
And because they're not doing this
because they're Jewish,
they're doing it despite the fact
that they're Jewish, of all people, they
should know to not go in this direction.
And I think that Jewish tradition
and culture says you shouldn't
[00:35:56]
obviously says you shouldn't go in
this direction, but they've gotten blinded
by this nationalism.
But most importantly, for our purposes,
Israel can do whatever they want.
They're a grown up country,
they have nuclear weapons, etc.
But why do you keep asking us
or demanding of us?
[00:36:13]
Our money, our support, our military, our
troops for everything that you're doing,
it has nothing to do with us.
And so this insistence that America
must pay Israel, America owes Israel.
America must never criticize Israel.
America must bow its head.
[00:36:32]
I mean, they killed 11 Americans
in the last three years in the West Bank.
And our government hasn't done anything.
There's an American kid
who's right now in an Israeli prison.
They won't answer for it, and our
government doesn't even ask for it.
There was an American who was attacked.
[00:36:48]
We covered on the show today
in the West Bank by settlers.
The embassy,
the American embassy writes back to him.
We're not permitted to help you
because you're inside Israel.
What is this?
I mean,
what part of this is like pro-america?
[00:37:07]
It doesn't make any sense.
Just unequivocal. Literate.
Literally psychopathic.
When you look at the criteria
for psychopathy,
it's displaying complete disregard
or negligence for common sense empathy.
[00:37:23]
The definition is something like that.
So this is quite literally
what we're up against.
When you see the tweets
from Ben-Gvir or Smotrich.
Or how about Congressman Randy Fein saying
glass, obviously knowing what that means
before even the cease fire, he had said
that, well, look, in the Second World War,
[00:37:43]
we faced a real external enemy.
And we ended that
with Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
So we should consider
doing the same thing here.
I'm sorry, I don't have this quote
off the top of my head.
No, no, this is advocated by licking them
and starving them to death.
He's a monster.
[00:37:58]
Oh, this is another example of the blatant
evil that is right in our face,
because it is tempting to wonder,
was the CIA behind this or that?
And, you know,
did Oswald really act alone?
And I love those discussions.
And they're productive.
[00:38:13]
But first and foremost,
if we care about corruption, we have to
get, a basic, basic understanding of the
blatant corruption right in front of us.
Here's my prediction for future
corruption that is coming along.
It is commonly said that,
war stimulates the economy.
[00:38:31]
You get people spending money, and this
sort of has a multiplier effect throughout
the economy, which allows it to grow
and increases the circulation of dollars.
Instead of saying war is a euphemism for
mass murder, as we're seeing in Gaza, as
[00:38:48]
we've seen in Ukraine, as we saw in Libya,
as we saw in Syria,
as we saw in Iraq, Afghanistan,
and the First and Second World War, not
to mention the wars in Vietnam and Korea.
They're going to try and sell us,
I predict this is according to Niall
Ferguson, Henry Kissinger's head
biographer, right after he passed away.
[00:39:06]
Ferguson went on the Charlie Rose show.
It is very likely that the US government
is going to try to provoke a war
with China over Taiwan.
Now we saw that we had to protect
the Donbas from being acquired
by the Russian Federation.
[00:39:26]
It looks like this is the same ploy
that will be taken in the case of Taiwan.
These proxy wars are very beneficial.
The US government sees the Chinese
as a potential competitor in the world,
and they're going to try and stop it.
[00:39:41]
So what the Young Turks audience
and the Libertarian Institute audience,
I think, need to be so firm on
is that in war, it is a euphemism
for mass working class death,
starvation, dismemberment and enslavement
under the guise of conscription,
[00:39:57]
as both Volodymyr Zelenskyy
and Vladimir Putin and Benjamin Netanyahu
have engaged in forced labor.
Even if you don't think
the war is worth fighting.
So if you support the working class,
if you support people
in vulnerable positions,
you can't just have a standard for people
[00:40:13]
in this geographical area called America,
or people in your age group,
or people in your racial demographic
or people on your ideological side.
It's important that we hate
what's happening in Gaza and extract a
productive lesson from this, that in war,
[00:40:29]
it's mass murder of the most vulnerable,
innocent people, far worse than any
other exploitation that I can imagine.
So that is the message that I wanted
to bring to your audience,
and I really appreciate you having me on.
Yeah. No problem.
I mean, I love that phrase
that you just put
[00:40:46]
that war is a euphemism for mass murder.
And if there's anything that progressives
and libertarians agree on,
it's being anti-war, because war is
just feeding us into the war machine.
Like a like we're fodder for them.
[00:41:02]
What's the point? Why do I want to die?
For you? To make more money?
It's sick. I've got no interest in it.
So, no, we got to protect Americans
from all these wars
that the corrupt elites want to start.
So I love that people check out
the Libertarian Institute
[00:41:19]
where Keith is the managing editor.
And then hopefully when we have
these specific campaigns,
we can coordinate together, work together.
You bring in libertarians,
we bring in progressives
and everyone else who's watching this.
And let's make sure
we protect Americans first.
- Okay.
- Appreciate it.
[00:41:35]
- Thanks for having me, brother.
- Thank you Keith.
Appreciate it.
All right guys,
so that's what we have for you today.
Tomorrow we'll have more,
we have some more amazing guests that are
coming up in the next couple of days.
I think you guys are going to love it.
Let's keep producing out there
and, start working together so we can
[00:41:53]
actually take our government back.
Love it.
Okay, now, for those of you
who are watching, who are not members,
if you want to catch the members only
bonus episode, hit the join button below
on YouTube or TikTok.
[00:42:08]
Because at the end of these episodes,
we used to a much longer bonus episode.
These episodes took that over.
I'm doing a short personal story.
Today.
My uncle passed away over the weekend,
and I want to tell you about it.
I told you about him a little bit
in the last story, so I'll tell
[00:42:24]
you about how he saved our lives.
So if you're a member, stay right here.
Okay.
So, we're in the member stream here now,
so I don't have to take a break,
and I'll just get into the story.
All right.
So, I was telling you guys about my uncle
in the last story time that we did.
[00:42:43]
And, fun little story about me getting
into Penn and, and interaction with him.
And then, coincidentally,
he passed away this weekend, and so he was
94. He, passed peacefully in his sleep.
[00:43:00]
So it's okay.
And, you know, look,
a lot of people I talk to, and I think
the same thing my dad said the same thing.
It's my dad's older brother.
We should all be so lucky to live to 94
and pass away in your sleep, right?
[00:43:18]
So. But the story I want to tell you
is about how he saved our lives.
So my dad and him were,
farmers in southeastern Turkey,
and they both hated farming.
It's hard business.
Got to get up at brutal hours.
[00:43:33]
Lug a whole bunch of equipment
to these tiny tracts of land.
They're very separated from one another.
My dad explained to me
how you separate the wheat from the chaff.
Because he literally used to do that.
They even made wine,
even though it was a muslim country.
It's turkey.
[00:43:49]
So it's a pretty secular, besides
which they can sell at other places.
And he explained how they make the wine.
And so some real farming,
I mean, old school farming, olives.
Of course it's turkey.
Anyways, my uncle comes to my dad.
[00:44:06]
Nobody's ever gone to college
in our family at that point.
And he says, I found out about
this thing called college.
And,
and it turns out anybody can get in and.
Back in the day, Turkey was doing
Bernie's program of free college education
[00:44:21]
to anyone who scored high enough.
Right.
And Turkey could afford it
back in the 1960s.
And they're saying
we can't afford it in America.
Even though America is the richest nation
in the history of the Earth.
No, they just want to keep
all the money for the elites.
[00:44:37]
Of course we can afford it.
Okay, do one less war.
We afford it easily
with like 5% of that budget.
Okay.
Anyways, so he says to my dad and my dad's
a young kid, he doesn't know anything.
And he's at that point, he's not doing
that well in school because he doesn't
[00:44:53]
even know the school's relevant.
You'd be amazed at what people don't know,
especially in southeastern Turkey
in the 1940s and 50s.
Right.
So he says, look,
I think you should go and be an engineer.
I'm going to be a doctor. My uncle says.
[00:45:08]
And and he said, my dad says, why?
It seems really hard.
And my uncle says to him, look,
either you're going to work really hard
on this farm the rest of your life,
or you're going to work hard in school.
And if you work hard in school,
what you get is this thing called a car.
[00:45:26]
And he's like, whoa, a car.
At that point, I gotta ask my dad,
tonight, I'm not sure.
My dad had even seen a car at that point.
Like we're talking.
My dad's 88. We're talking old school.
Okay, but if he had seen it, it was.
He certainly didn't have one.
[00:45:45]
But the idea of having a car
was like this amazing, idea.
He said you could can have a big house
and a beautiful girl to marry you.
And my dad was like, whoa,
now we're having a conversation.
Okay, so he says, my uncle said,
you either work, you know,
work hard in here or there.
[00:46:01]
So which one do you want?
And my dad's like, well,
school's hard, but farming sucks.
It's like the hardest thing in the world.
And it's really hot out here.
And he's like, okay,
I guess I'll become an engineer.
[00:46:16]
And he crosses his fingers
in hopes that my uncle is right.
And by the way, their dad passed away
when he was really young.
So my dad was like six months old
when his dad passed away.
So he didn't even know his dad.
His older brother
was basically a father figure to him.
[00:46:32]
And he listened.
And my dad worked really hard,
started getting really good grades,
scored really well on the entrance exam,
got into the top engineering school
and school in Istanbul,
and the rest is history
because he graduates from there and starts
his own business, moves to America,
starts his own business here.
[00:46:49]
He's hired, by the way,
the greatness of that program is.
Over the course of his life,
my dad has hired hundreds of people.
So helping people get a free college
education is not just morally right.
It's also economically correct position.
It adds a lot to the economy.
[00:47:05]
It adds to the Turkish economy,
it added to the American economy.
And so and by the way,
if my dad hadn't become an engineer,
hadn't listened to his brother,
there's no way in the world he could
have married my mom, who was a little bit
more upper class than that town.
There's no way that his family
could have married into that family.
[00:47:22]
If my dad wasn't already getting a
master's degree in mechanical engineering
in America, and then he could come back
and ask for my mom's hand in marriage.
So if it wasn't for my brother,
I mean, his brother, I wouldn't even exist
because there's no way that marriage would
have happened and my kids wouldn't exist.
[00:47:39]
None of us would exist.
And so and then he, my uncle,
came to America,
and he convinced my dad to come here, too.
And I got to tell you,
my uncle, man, he loved America.
He just.
He believed in the American dream.
Same with my dad.
[00:47:55]
They're the two most earnest guys
you'll ever meet.
They loved immigrating here.
They believed in the dream from day one.
And by the way, they lived the dream.
My uncle became a successful doctor,
went into real estate,
got a bunch of buildings.
He even once bought this area of land
in new Jersey
[00:48:12]
and developed residential real estate.
I asked my cousins about it the other day,
and, there was like a younger street.
He named the streets after us.
There might have been a junk street,
I forget now.
So, and my cousins are his, grandkids.
[00:48:33]
And so maybe we'll go find
that town in Jersey one day.
Wouldn't it be fun
if we did field trips there?
I'm not sure.
They're not sure that it still exists.
At least the street names and stuff.
By the way, that side of the family also.
When I mentioned my Jewish family,
there's a couple of my cousin married a
[00:48:51]
Jewish guy and got a nephew and niece
on that side who are Jewish.
And anyways,
random fact of the day for you.
So to Islamiyya, I love you.
[00:49:07]
We all love you.
And thank you for giving
me the life that I have.
And, you know, he lived a great life
and we all loved him.
And, Man, job well done on life.
Thank you for all that you gave
to everyone else.
[00:49:24]
So I just wanted to share that story
about why I'm here in the first place.
It was because of my uncle
who just passed away.
All right, guys.
Love you. I'll see you tomorrow.
Every time you ring the bell below,
an angel gets its wings.
[00:49:42]
Totally not true.
But it does keep you updated
on our live shows.
Now Playing (Episode)
Podcast
